Thursday, January 28, 2021


This is Mary who was contemplating abortion and found an abortionist even though it is illegal in Kenya. She found my abortion story of regret online and messaged me when she was 14 weeks along. AND HERE IS HER PRECIOUS LITTLE GIRL!! ❤ Thank you Lord!! Baby girl is named Jasmine to go along with siblings Jeremy, Jude and Joy and daddy Justus. Thank you for praying!!
And thank you to those who gave yesterday!! Mary said to thank you too!!
I will never shut up about the death and destruction abortion brings. becauseTHIS

Monday, November 16, 2020


 If abortion DIDN'T brutally end the life of an innocent human being, I wouldn't care. But it does. And I do. -Carla Stream

Thursday, September 24, 2020


When we decided to homeschool this year I ordered curriculum and opened boxes like Christmas. Nathan's American History book arrived and as I glanced through it, this was the first picture I saw. Students for Life of America at the March for Life! Of course the tears started and I thanked God that we chose wisely in education and books full of TRUTH.

Wednesday, September 23, 2020

My Mary

Mary, my new friend from Kenya who chose life is 20 WEEKS!!

We try to message each other everyday. My morning is her evening.

Monday, September 14, 2020

Choose Life


My son and his friends saw these Prolife Across America signs. Real Men Love Babies. Life begins at conception. Defend Life. Life begins at conception. You can see what someone with hate(murderous rage) in their hearts did to the signs. Spray painting over a baby's face.
My son and his friends had a prolife sign, talked to the man of the house and placed their sign underneath.

Friday, September 4, 2020

The date will come like it always does. My body remembers the trauma long before I acknowledge it. September 5th, 1990.

Tomorrow marks 30 years since the abortion of my precious daughter, Aubrey. The grief never goes but I do not grieve as those with no hope. (1 Thess 4:13)
Before I could even ask God to help me through the day I received a facebook message from Kenya. A young, pregnant mom with 3 children had been contemplating abortion. Even though abortion is illegal in Kenya, she made an appointment with someone who could do it. She found my story of abortion regret online and messaged me. I messaged her back and offered her support, encouragement, help and hope. She gave me all of her reasons for seeking to end her child's life. I countered with truth. I prayed and prayed and God heard and answered. She chose life!! She messaged, "I am so happy!!" I have received photos of her beautiful family and her growing baby, now 17 weeks!!
And THAT is what my God does. He RESCUES, REDEEMS and RESTORES!! THAT is how God uses my deepest regret. Amen.
Please pray for Mary, her husband Justus, and children Jeremy, Jude and Joy. With her permission(we message each other everyday)I am sharing pictures of her beautiful family!!
I will be away from this place for a couple of days.
Pondering. Feeling what I feel.
How I could possibly love God MORE and when can I get to Kenya?? 

Wednesday, July 1, 2020

Standing for Life

At one point there were 14 of us out there!! Praying 
against the evil, asking God to save!!
A young man brought his sister. She had lied to him about her appointment. She was going in for an abortion and he was trying to call her. Praying that God saved the life of his niece or nephew.
I am grateful for those that stand with me. And grateful that my God saves. Saves those that chose life yesterday that we don't even know about

Wednesday, May 20, 2020

Choose Life!

I had a dream the other night that I chose LIFE instead of abortion. LIFE instead of DEATH! I was given what I was denied at the abortion mill. I got to see the ultrasound of my baby! I got to hear that little heartbeat! I yellled, "NO NO NO!" at the staff and left. I felt the same fear and anxiety and uncertainty turn to RELIEF and JOY as people wanted to help me and come alongside of me! They offered me EVERYTHING I needed. EVERYTHING I wanted.
This dream was truly a gift to me as I got a glimpse of what it feels like to be surrounded by strangers when in great need. Turning from the darkness to light. Choosing the best for myself and my daughter. A glimpse of what it must feel like for those that do indeed choose life!
There are women choosing life today!
I know that in eternity I will be made whole. NO MORE grief or pain or tears forever and ever. Amen. Thank you Lord!

Monday, April 27, 2020


The grief after abortion never goes.
Not on this side of heaven. And I accept that.
My daughter would be here had I made the best decision I could have made. I could have let her live.
By the end of April there is always the sadness. I have to stop and remember that my girl would have been born sometime in April. The tears shall fall today in sorrow and gratitude for what God has done.
My Aubrey would have been 29 years old this month.
Another year closer to you. The longing for you grows. I am so grateful to God that He has you with Him. And that one day we will be together for eternity. Until then I will honor your life and your memory by continuing to share our story.
I love you so much,

Tuesday, February 11, 2020


If you are sharing anything on facebook etc about those that have chosen abortion please don't allow condemnation. Moderate the thread. Don't let those comments go without bringing the truth to bear that our enemy is satan. Not those that are deceived.
We are all sinners and some of us(me)have come to Christ because of our brokenness after abortion. Post abortive men and women who have found healing are some of the prolife movement's loudest voices in sharing the devastation of abortion and our healing in Christ.
I was never brought to repentance by being called a "baby killer, a murderer, a slut or a whore."
He forgives!!! He is the only reason I am still here.
BUT I RECEIVED MERCY for this reason, that in me, as the foremost, Jesus Christ might display his perfect patience as an example to those who were to believe in him for eternal life.1 Timothy 1:16

Sunday, October 13, 2019


Such a JOY to be with my best Jill Stanek again and introduce her!! Jill came to tell her story at Options for Women-River Falls!! So great to walk down memory lane of moderating her blog! 

Friday, June 14, 2019


If you're against abortion, don't have one.
If you're against slavery, don't own a slave.
If you're against child abuse, don't abuse a child.
If you're against rape, don't rape anyone.
If you're against sex trafficking, don't traffic anyone.
I mean, that's what we do with human injustices, right? We don't fight against them. We're supposed to just mind our own business when somebody else is being harmed or killed.
-Kel Kopetz

Wednesday, April 24, 2019

My Daughter

Living with the truth after abortion. 
I will admit there are days when I wish it wasn't part of my story. But it is. God has redeemed so much!! I will face into the truth about my daughter, Aubrey who died in my abortion on September 5th, 1990.
Had I chosen life, she would have been 28 years old this month.

Tuesday, February 26, 2019


No you are not prochoice.
If you are prochoice on abortion you are proabortion. You are FOR abortion. If you voted NO to offer newborns who are born alive after abortion life saving care you are proinfanticide.
Proabortion. Proinfanticide.
Own it. Own what you support.
"Oh Carla nobody is FOR abortion!!"
Um. Look around. Take a good look at those laughing, smiling, clapping and patting themselves on the back while they support and encourage and sign legislation on abortion through ALL 9 MONTHS OF PREGNANCY and death for newborns. Abortionists who commit abortions are certainly FOR abortion. Women yelling, screaming and marching for ABORTION ON DEMAND and WITHOUT APOLOGY are also FOR abortion. And to those that keep telling me they are prochoice but never stop talking about how AWESOME abortion are proabortion.

Tuesday, January 29, 2019

How Could Any Woman Abort Her Own Child?

When you are completely alone and everyone in your life offers no help or hope or support only abortion. When you believe you don't have a choice. When you believe EVERY single lie at the abortion mill about "clumps of cells" and "getting on with your life" and "quick, simple and painless." When you are never shown the ultrasound or allowed to hear that little heartbeat. When you are shown a video of a clump of red circles at 10 weeks along and told that is what your baby looks like. When you were NEVER told about the blood loss, the risk of breast cancer and miscarriage, the guilt and shame or lifelong regret, the drinking and anxiety and nightmares. When you deliver your second child into your hand at 10 weeks along and see THE TRUTH for yourself. 
How could I do such a thing? I am a human being and I made a horrible choice. And I have to carry it. 
But I will NEVER stop telling my story because women have chosen life because I told the truth of my experience. And women have found healing in Christ because I have led them to post abortive recovery. 

Wednesday, October 10, 2018

You Are Needed

In 2008 I contacted the Director of the River Falls Pregnancy Helpline. I wanted to be a liaison between them and my church. I wanted to know their needs and desires and how could we partner with them. Why? 
Because pregnancy centers do God's work. They are the hands and feet of Jesus to women and men who need them. They hold back those staggering toward slaughter. They offer to women EVERYTHING I wanted before my abortion. And they offer it for FREE. 
I have helped coordinate volunteers and assisted with baby bottle fundraisers, kept my church family aware of parades and banquets and opportunities to serve.
Here's a quick story. When the Pregnancy Helpline became Options for Women and moved to a new location they prayed for an ultrasound machine. FCC did the baby bottle fundraiser and when they were told that 80% of women choose life after seeing the ultrasound they stepped up. We raised $45,000 for the ultrasound machine. I stood in that room and stared at that beautiful machine and cried. Tears of joy for the mothers that would see the truth. And tears of sorrow for having been denied that opportunity to see my baby before my abortion.
WHAT IF every church reached out to their nearest pregnancy center and came alongside the life saving work they do? WHAT IF you are that liaison?
Think about it.

Sunday, September 30, 2018

Champion for Life

I was honored and grateful to receive this award by my former roommate Jill.  Jill drove me to my abortion appointment and waited for me all day.  We went our separate ways and we both found our voices about how abortion affected us. 
Thank you Gianna Jessen for being such an amazing speaker!! 

Wednesday, September 5, 2018

28 Years Ago

September 5th, 1990. The day I aborted my first child, Aubrey. 28 years ago today.
| journaled, I prayed, I bought flowers for the baby stone in the backyard, I opened the card and gift from my beloved husband. I asked God to please show me how he redeems this pain. I asked Him to help me bear it.
I received a photo of a beautiful 3 year old boy and want to share with you his story. Before he was born his mother considered abortion. She lived in another country and I was added to a facebook message with her and other post abortive moms who regret their abortions. We told her we were there for her and loved her and her child and we wanted to help. We told her our stories of the pain and grief and the lifelong regret that abortion brings. I added my friend to the conversation that lived in her country and ran a pregnancy center near this precious momma. And she chose life!! I get updates from her and get to watch this beautiful little boy grow!!
I would have had no story to tell this pregnant mom if I hadn't gone through it myself. And God knows that. He sees me. He knows me. He knows what my heart needs before I can even express it. He heard and He answered.
Oh how He loves me!
I love you Aubrey. My longing and my love for you continue to grow. I will one day be with you in heaven sweet girl.

Saturday, August 11, 2018

Do Something!!

It is one thing to be horrified and angered by abortion and ALL the evil it brings. The absolute barbaric TRUTH of it. ALL of the death and destruction it has wrought.
It is quite another to be moved enough to ask yourself, "What am I going to do about it?"

Thursday, August 2, 2018

Standing for Life

17 babies lose their lives here in St. Paul, MN daily.
An entire kindergarten class dies.
We stood and prayed and witnessed. There were honks and waves of support. And then middle fingers, cuss words and my personal favorite, "GET A JOB!" (I have one thank you very much) And it always begs the question, "What is your experience with abortion?"
I mean you are stirred up obviously and the hatred and anger in your heart was already there before you ever saw me and yelled at me to EFF OFF!
This sweet pregnant momma came out to pray. 3 little ones witnessing. Perfect.
Quite a few coming and going today. Stacy the sidewalk counselor got info into the hands of many!! May that bear fruit Lord!

Monday, May 7, 2018


There are certain truths that I have to live with being a post abortive mom. Yes I know that I am saved. And forgiven. Yes I know where my Aubrey is. Yes I know we will be together again. And I know that God is good. I know that He has her. He has always had her. He will always have her. I know it is all at the cross.
There are still anniversaries that roll around. The day that I found out I was pregnant. The day I made an appointment. The day of my abortion. The spring time when she would have been born. The years go by. As much as the abortion industry would have us believe that abortion is GOOD for women the hard truth never goes. The grief and loss remain. Until that one day when ALL will be made right. No more pain. No more tears or sorrow. No more. 

With all that being said I will acknowledge and carry this.
My Aubrey would have been 27 years old last month.

Saturday, February 3, 2018

Wednesday, January 3, 2018

From the Sidewalk

I got inspired last night and made a new sign. I noticed the women going in and out and reading it. 
Yes it's cold. But we stay warm. And the baby parts truck(medical waste)comes and takes my babies away. 
I will call them mine. I will mourn them. 
We got yelled at and flipped off and lectured. One woman stated, "You have no right to be here pretending that you are better than anyone else! I will pray to God that he opens your eyes!!" But there are always thumbs up and waves and honks of support. One kind soul handed out cups of coffee.
Praying that hearts and minds were changed today. Praying that lives were saved.
God bless those that go with me, those that sidewalk counsel and those who pray for us.

Wednesday, December 6, 2017

Save the Storks

Save the Storks reposted my story.

Saturday, October 7, 2017

Passion for Life Banquet

The banquet went really well!! The truth of my abortion experience must be told. The truth of hope and healing after abortion must be told. There was an audible gasp as I introduced the roommate that drove me to my abortion. She is now the Executive Director of Lakes Life Care Center!! 

God is good! He is so good! My heart is full. 

Tuesday, September 5, 2017


27 years ago today I aborted my first child. 
I will feel what I feel and take the time to let the tears fall and remember that grief is work. I will allow my feelings to lead me to Him. The One who has my daughter Aubrey. The One who KNOWS and UNDERSTANDS and HEALS and RESCUES and REDEEMS and RESTORES. I will put some flowers by the baby stone, read the card that my husband bought for me, pray and journal and cry and pray some more. And I will yet praise Him. In gratitude I will praise Him. For the babies that are alive today because I told my story. For the mommies of those babies who will NEVER know what I know. For the post abortive women that walk this journey with me. For the joy set before me in seeing my precious Aubrey one day.
I am closer to you, Aubrey than I was last year. I love you, Mommy

Saturday, July 1, 2017

Always With Me

And Aubrey was her name,
A not so very ordinary girl or name
But who's to blame?

For a love that wouldn't bloom
For the hearts that never played in tune
Like a lovely melody that everyone can sing,
Take away the words that rhyme it doesn't mean a thing
And Aubrey was her name
We tripped the light and danced together to the moon,
But where was June
No it never came around
If it did it never made a sound,
Maybe I was absent or was listening to fast,
Catching all the words, but then the meaning going past,
But God I miss the girl,
And I'd go a thousand times around the world just to be
Closer to her than to me
And Aubrey was her name,
I never knew her, but I loved her just the same,
I loved her name
Wish that I had found the way
And the reasons that would make her stay
I have learned to lead a life apart from all the rest
If I can't have the one I want, I'll do without the best
But how I miss the girl
And I'd go a million times around the world just to say
She had been mine for a day

Songwriters: David Gates
Aubrey lyrics © EMI Music Publishing, David Gates D/B/A Kipahulu Mu

Monday, June 19, 2017

From the Sidewalk

THANK YOU for praying this morning!! I believe almost 50 of you were praying when I asked you to in my facebook post.
I went with my friends Cathy and Jared.
There were 3 couples going into Planned Parenthood when we got there. Brian Gibson tried giving one couple a pamphlet and a security guard tried grabbing it out of Brian's hand. Brian said he would call the police and the guard kept chiding him about that. We stood and prayed.
So many cars in and out. Always Jimmy John's for lunch. Always the Medical Disposal Systems truck to carry away the broken and bloodied bodies of innocent human beings.
There was one woman that was in the passenger side heading into the parking lot who stared at my sign the whole time. I prayed that a seed of doubt was firmly planted in her mind. That she would turn from abortion.
Every time I go God gives me a song. (No I don't sing out loud)Today it was- I believe in God our Father I believe in Christ the Son I believe in the Holy Spirit Our God is three in One I believe in the resurrection That we will rise again For I believe In the Name of Jesus.
Jared pulled out his phone and shared a message with the PP escorts. "Consider what you are doing. Do not support the shedding of innocent blood." So proud of him!! Pray for the escorts.

I was flipped off at least 3 times.  I smiled and waved and prayed for them.  I was once that angry too. 
A man drove up to explain that we were doing it wrong. That our signs were not effective. That a sign should say THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. WE ARE HERE TO HELP. I told him maybe God was prompting HIM to make that sign and join us.
A woman drove out of the PP driveway with a big smile and a thumbs up. She pulled over and rolled down her window and said, "I CHANGED MY MIND!! IT'S TWINS!!" ohmyheart I ran up to Jared who was still talking to the man who told us we made no difference. "SHE JUST CHOSE LIFE!! SHE IS CARRYING TWINS!!"
The Lord has us on that sidewalk for His reasons. His purposes. He can work through anyone at anytime and He does what pleases Him. And we are obedient. I have been shaking and crying tears of joy and covered in goosebumps that I got to witness a mom CHOOSE LIFE for herself and her precious babies!!
All glory and honor and praise to you Lord!!
Love in Christ,

Friday, March 17, 2017

Why the Uproar PP??

"Hey, Planned Parenthood. If the federal funds you receive aren't used for abortion, why would decreasing that funding have any effect on the number of children not aborted?"
Such a great question!! I wish I could give credit where credit is due but I don't know who said it.

Saturday, February 11, 2017


Defund Planned Parenthood rally in St. Paul, MN! The nation's 3rd largest PP is located in St. Paul.
Brought some friends and stood for life while praying for an end to taxpayer funded abortion!

Wednesday, February 8, 2017

One Day

There will come a day when my grandchildren or Lord willing, great grandchildren will ask if I did everything I could do to end abortion. 
And I want to be able to answer, "Yes. Yes I did."

Tuesday, February 7, 2017


The first Wednesday of every month I go to the nation's 3rd largest Planned Parenthood in St. Paul, MN to pray.  I bring friends from my church who would like a ride.  And we pray.  We pray against abortion and we pray for the mothers and fathers driving in.  We pray for the sidewalk counselors speaking words of truth and life. We pray for the escorts and the abortionists and every single worker there that they turn from the evil work they are doing and that God opens their eyes.  We pray for the mothers and fathers that went through with it that they one day find true hope and healing in Jesus Christ.

It is never easy.  I don't want to go but I feel God calling me to go and I will be obedient.

Proverbs 24:11-12
Rescue those being led away to death;

    hold back those staggering toward slaughter.
12 If you say, “But we knew nothing about this,”
    does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
Does not he who guards your life know it?
    Will he not repay everyone according to what they have done?


Monday, January 30, 2017

Cradle My Heart

Wanted to share this interview with Kim Ketola again.

Precious time on her show Cradle My Heart. Precious time spent talking with someone who KNOWS what I KNOW.

Monday, January 23, 2017

Tuesday, January 3, 2017

Operation Outcry

I became the State Team Leader of Operation Outcry in 2007.  I helped to gather declarations and pointed post abortive women and men to the website to fill one out.  They are filed as friend of the court briefs in prolife legislation and they have helped to pass so many prolife laws that are on the books across the US!! Mine and Aubrey's story is a part of that.

If you have been hurt by abortion go to this link and fill out a declaration and help us pass more and more prolife legislation in 2017! Thank you!

Monday, September 5, 2016

Grieving Aubrey

26 years ago today I paid someone to take the life of my first child. I will grieve my daughter. I will grieve with hope because I will see her again. 

Thank you Lord for your forgiveness and healing after abortion. For you never ending grace and mercy over me. For leading me out of the darkness and into the light. For blessing me with a family that loves and knows and understands. Thank you also Lord for post abortive friends who know the lifelong burden. And other mommies who have lost children and turn to You for comfort in their sorrow and grieve with hope right along with me.
I love you, Aubrey. I am yours and you are mine.

Saturday, March 26, 2016

Good Friday Prayer Vigil 2016

A couple of years ago my daughter Sarah 
started coming with me to the Good Friday Prayer Vigil at the Planned Parenthood in St. Paul, MN. Her first time I explained that on the other side of the barricade there were those that were proabortion. That they sometimes yelled things when they saw my I Regret My Abortion sign. 
Sarah said, "I can hold it for you, Mom."

Tuesday, January 12, 2016

With Tom Brock

Friday, September 11, 2015

Rally Ready!!

Speaking out at the Firestorm Rally at the MN Governor's Mansion on September 9th, 2015!!

Tuesday, August 4, 2015

Speaking Out!!

I was invited to speak at the WomenBetrayed Rally in front of the nation's 3rd largest Planned Parenthood in St. Paul, MN.  There were at least 800+ there!!

Saturday, June 6, 2015

Good Friday Prayer Vigil 2015

With some friends who came with me and with Brian Gibson, the Director of Pro Life Action Ministries.

Saturday, November 15, 2014


24 years since my abortion and my story changes. Changes in how I perceive it and what I want to say about it.

It is something I did. It is not who I am. My abortion does not define me. God defines me.

Now more than anything I want people to know the truth about abortion. I want women and men that are in bondage to the aftermath to find forgiveness and freedom in Christ. From the darkness to the light. I want others to see how God has used my experience to bring glory to Him! He redeems the pain of my past! He restores to me the years that the locusts have eaten! He brings beauty from ashes! I will finally be healed when I meet Him face to face. I will carry the regret for the rest of my days as a consequence of that choice. I will continue to share my experience in whatever way pleases Him.

It is not only my story. It is His.

Friday, October 31, 2014

ND Measure 1

I am very proud of the work I have done on this ad for ND Measure 1.  It will be on the ballot November 4th. Please pray that it passes!

Here is the full interview.

I also was a guest on Kim Ketola's radio show, Cradle My Heart.  

Thursday, July 24, 2014


About a year ago I was contacted by The Barry Agency who wanted me to become their prolife speaker.  I reshot a video and also did some photos.

Ken Barry is my agent and I would be happy to come and speak to you!!

Friday, June 6, 2014

6 Years

After being a moderator on Jill Stanek's blog I decided I to step down.  6 YEARS!! Such an amazing journey I had there! I have met such articulate, genuine, loving people  who have become treasured friends.  I initially started reading in 2007 and started commenting in 2008. Jill asked me to moderate after that.   I wanted to share my experience of being a post abortive mom and shine a light on the REAL tragedy, regret and grief of abortion.  I learned quickly that those that are proabortion do not appreciate putting a face and a name to abortion pain.  Abortion must be encouraged and supported and celebrated!  I received the most amazing education on what some that are proabortion actually believe and think! I also  found some that truly were on the fence and over the years turned to a prolife stance.
I also had the privilege of being contacted by post abortive moms through the blog.  They emailed me and called me and texted me.  I tried to find resources for abortion recovery in their areas and am happy to learn that so many have found healing in Christ!!
Jill has been a mentor/friend for so long and I must admit that it isn't easy to leave what has become a very special place for me. But I know that it isn't really goodbye.  :)

I wrote a blog post for Jill and you will find it here.

Thursday, February 13, 2014


When confronted by me on facebook over her plagiarism of my letters, Hannah Rose Allen wrote this.

"Carla, I am truly sorry. I ask you to please pray about this. Can you please forgive me? I did not maliciously try to take your letter. I can change the letter and take out anything similar to yours or take the letter down completely. Nobody will take me seriously and my story will lose credibility and the pro-life movement will be hurt. Can't we as sisters in the Lord work this out between us?"

I wrote about this experience that happened to me last Saturday.  It has not been an easy week but since writing has always been cathartic for me I expressed my thoughts and feelings here and my dear friend Jill Stanek posted it.

 I continue to tell my story.  I continue to reach out to post abortive women or those in the valley of decision.  I continue to moderate Jill's blog. I continue to chase my four children like a lunatic and find joy in the journey.  I will go where the Lord calls me to go and I will never stop telling others that abortion hurts women.

And just so you know how very serious plagiarism is I give you this.

According to the Modern Language Association plagiarism "is the act of using another person's ideas or expressions in your writing without acknowledging the source...In short, to plagiarize is to give the impression that you have written or thought something that you have in fact borrowed from someone else."

Every year for my high school students they have to read the rules and consequences about plagiarism.  They have to sign and so do I.  They understand that if they copy something and give the impression that they wrote it they risk failing that class!

I am sure my little old nothing blog was easy enough to lift some lines from.  I mean nobody would know right? It's just a love letter tucked away in the interwebs.  Well this mother knew.  This mother knew the words of love she penned to her own daughter.  Replacing my Aubrey's name with her son's name was blatant.  And hurtful.  And I don't believe that Hannah Rose Allen even knows or understands that.

Saturday, November 30, 2013

In Loving Memory

This is my friend Kelly Peterson.  She passed away on October 9th of this year.  She fought cancer valiantly.
Kelly was very special to me for so many reasons.  When I met Kelly she told me about her 2 abortions and I felt a great respect and admiration for her.  She attended my church and I was no longer alone!! She was one of the first in my church family to be honest about her experience.  We spoke together at UW-Madison with Operation Outcry. She stood with me and our I Regret My Abortion signs when Obama came to St. Paul.  We shared our abortion stories because we believed that maybe others would NOT make the same devastating choice.
Kelly will always be with me.  Her strength and faith are such an inspiration. She has passed the torch to me in the prolife movement. Praying I can fight the good fight.  Just as she did!!

I love you and miss you Kelly.